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Observations on Control Commands: Redirects, Recalls, and Out & Return

In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw discusses:

  • Understanding the progressions between redirects, recalls, and outs and returns. 
  • Common mistakes made and how to correct them. 
  • Avoiding unwanted stress, pressure, anticipation, and preferences during your training. 
  • Repeated training and training more than what’s in certification only. 

 

 

Key Takeaways:

  • Command discrimination is extremely important as it tells the dog what, exactly, you are wanting them to do. 
  • You want to set the dog up for success when arranging the training sessions, including accounting for preferences that may skew their training results.
  • Change up the training in some fashion when you start to see anticipation in your dog for the command. 
  • If you want to build your control over your dog at distance, the e-collar can help you with that. 

 

 

“It is really important to understand, before you get into this, what is that progression – going from two decoy redirects until you get that reflex action and start adding in the get to heal position as a bridge to reward bites so that we can build the out and return nicely, and then we can start doing recalls, and so forth.” — Jerry Bradshaw

 

 

Get Jerry’s book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com

 

 

Contact Jerry:

Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com

Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com

Tarheel Canine Training: www.tarheelcanine.com

Youtube: tarheelcanine

Twitter: @tarheelcanine

Instagram: @tarheelk9

Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining

Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org

Patreon: patreon.com/controlledaggression

Slideshare: Tarheel Canine

Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine 

Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/ 

 

 

Sponsors: 

ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com

PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org

Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com

Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/ 

Aaron’s Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca 

Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc 

Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/ 

 

 

 

Train Hard, train smart, be safe.

 

 

Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

 

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Observations on Control Commands – Out

In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw discusses:

  • How to get fluency in your outing with reward, not punishment.
  • Beginning with the end in mind in your training.
  • Training with e-collars and your dog.
  • Command chains, variable reward, and understanding Pavlovian conditioning. 

 

Key Takeaways:

  • You will not get fluency in your outing until you understand that repetition in out training with rewarding the dog for outing is what is going to get that fluency.
  • There are complications when importing an out command from an object, such as a toy, to fighting a man.
  • Not every e-collar is the same, and not every e-collar is correct for every dog.
  • You want the dog to think there is an obedience command after the release. The dog will be in a hurry to get into that obedience command because that is where the reward will happen. 

 

“One word cannot mean two different actions to a dog. He cannot always read the context in your intentions, so you must give him a command that is going to be meaningful to him.” — Jerry Bradshaw

 

Get Jerry’s book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com

 

Contact Jerry:

Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com

Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com

Tarheel Canine Training: www.tarheelcanine.com

Youtube: tarheelcanine

Twitter: @tarheelcanine

Instagram: @tarheelk9

Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining

Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org

Patreon: patreon.com/controlledaggression

Slideshare: Tarheel Canine

Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine 

Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/ 

 

 

Sponsors: 

ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com

PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org

Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com

Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/ 

Aaron’s Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca 

Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc 

Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/ 

 

Train Hard, train smart, be safe.

 

Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

 

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

Building a Successful PSA Club

In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw discusses:

  • Starting a successful PSA club in your area that is good and healthy for trainers and canines.
  • Pros and cons of the two types of clubs you can run – democracy or top-down leadership.
  • The role of training directors and decoys within a PSA club.
  • Attending club, learning in seminars, following progressions, and learning from those who have had success in the sport you are pursuing. 

 

Key Takeaways:

  • Any place where people get together and share a passion, you will find certain types of conflicts.
  • New members will always need more guidance than a more experienced member. Same when a team member is transitioning between levels.
  • As training director, you are in charge of the safety of the dog, the safety of the trainer, and the safety of the decoys. Otherwise, you have to be willing to bend and let your trainers explore and try new things when they want to.
  • In a club atmosphere, training and information don’t all have to come from one person. Everyone can learn and grow from one another. 

 

“The approach has to be one where we look at shared success, and being genuinely happy as teams progress. Those teams have to realize they wouldn’t be anywhere without the decoys, without the training directors, without the people that are part of the successful approach that has allowed that team to be able to title successfully.” — Jerry Bradshaw  

 

Get Jerry’s book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com

 

Contact Jerry:

Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com

Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com

Tarheel Canine Training: www.tarheelcanine.com

Youtube: tarheelcanine

Twitter: @tarheelcanine

Instagram: @tarheelk9

Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining

Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org

Patreon: patreon.com/controlledaggression

Slideshare: Tarheel Canine

Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine 

Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/ 

 

 

Sponsors: 

ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com

PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org

Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com

Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/ 

Aaron’s Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca 

Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc 

Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/ 

 

Train Hard, train smart, be safe.

 

Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

 

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Holding a Standard of Behavior

In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw discusses:

  • Knowing what an ideal behavior looks like when you’re working every stage of progression. 
  • Accountability and follow through. 
  • Short, medium, and long term goals in your organized training plan. 
  • Having proper technique and understanding reward structure for your dog. 

 

Key Takeaways:

  • You must hold a consistent standard of behavior to show the dog that there is no wiggle room is what you expect from them. 
  • Allowing departures from what is expected tells the dog that there is no standard of behavior. 
  • You have to understand how to craft a training session and understand what your goal of each training session is and how it fits into the bigger picture of your training plan. 
  • We want to be able to articulate our assessment of how things went and that allows us to understand what we need to do moving into the next session.

 

“You have to know what an ideal state and ideal behavior looks like, whether it’s a segment of behavior, or a part of a bigger behavior chain, when you’re working every stage of that dog’s progression. Whether you’re working something in the short, medium, or long term you have to really understand what standard you want to hold that dog to, and, every single time you bring that dog out, you have to hold him to that standard of behavior.” —  Jerry Bradshaw 

 

Get Jerry’s book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com

 

Contact Jerry:

Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com

Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com

Tarheel Canine Training:  www.tarheelcanine.com

Youtube:  tarheelcanine

Twitter: @tarheelcanine

Instagram: @tarheelk9

Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining

Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org

Patreon:   patreon.com/controlledaggression

Slideshare: Tarheel Canine

Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine 

Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/ 

 

 

Sponsors: 

ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com

PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org

Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com

Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/ 

Aaron’s Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca 

Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc 

Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/ 

 

Train Hard, train smart, be safe.

 

Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

 

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

 

Is Your Training Too Operant?

In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw discusses:

  • Classical versus operant conditioning. 
  • Recognizing and understanding the emotional states of your dog. 
  • How your emotions and confidence affect the emotional state of your dog. 
  • Understanding the classical effects of your operant conditioning. 
  • The magic in the emotions. 

 

Key Takeaways:

  • Most dog training starts with operant work then folds in classical conditioning. 
  • When training with a dog, you are not working in laboratory conditions. There are other associations happening and that context needs to be taken into account. 
  • Hunting for a toy and hunter for a man are two different things. You will draw more sustained, higher level drive when trailing with a bite at the end rather than hunting a ball or a pipe. 
  • Be aware of what lessons you are teaching when utilizing training tools.They may be learning a classical lesson instead of the intended operant lesson. 

 

“Classical conditioning will always trump operant conditioning, in certain circumstances, if those two things come into conflict.” —  Jerry Bradshaw

 

Get Jerry’s book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com

 

Contact Jerry:

Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com

Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com

Tarheel Canine Training:  www.tarheelcanine.com

Youtube:  tarheelcanine

Twitter: @tarheelcanine

Instagram: @tarheelk9

Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining

Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org

Patreon:   patreon.com/controlledaggression

Slideshare: Tarheel Canine

Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine 

Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/ 

 

 

Sponsors: 

ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com

PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org

Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com

Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/ 

Aaron’s Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca 

Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc 

Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/ 

 

Train Hard, train smart, be safe.

 

Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

 

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Pat Stuart: Low Level Stim E-Collar Conditioning

In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw and Pat Stuart discuss:

  • Utilizing e-collars for more than just negative reinforcement. 
  • Understanding what low-level actually means with the e-collar. 
  • Creating learning phases and utilizing more than one tool in your training tool kit. 
  • Negative reinforcement and positive punishment. 
  • Activation in e-collar training. 

 

Key Takeaways:

  • The level of e-collar stim needs to be at a level where it doesn’t derail the dog from what he was going to do anyway. 
  • Duration matters with e-collars, and with pressure in general. Intensity and time both matter when it comes to the pressure being applied. 
  • The e-collar is a tool in the tool kit, not the only resource available. 
  • E-collar requires a mental reframing. Negative reinforcement can become playful for the dog, and they cannot win with an e-collar in the same way they can with a line.
  • Just because somebody is using a tool incorrectly does not make the tool inherently bad. 

 

“I think the way that people make a dog e-collar aware is by not using the collar enough, and by that I mean not wearing it enough, not necessarily using it and being on the buttons enough.” —  Pat Stuart

 

Get Jerry’s book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com

 

Connect with Pat:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/canineparadigm

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecanineparadigmshow/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecanineparadigm/?igshid=rhle8hrgp6tx

Website: https://www.operantcanine.com.au/

Show: http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4i8paQFojTy25xPRAR7LoA

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thecanineparadigm

 

Contact Jerry:

Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com

Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com

Tarheel Canine Training:  www.tarheelcanine.com

Youtube:  tarheelcanine

Twitter: @tarheelcanine

Instagram: @tarheelk9

Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining

Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org

Patreon:   patreon.com/controlledaggression

Slideshare: Tarheel Canine

Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine 

Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/ 

 

 

Sponsors: 

ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com

PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org

Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com

Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/ 

Aaron’s Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca 

Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc 

Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/ 

 

Train Hard, train smart, be safe.

 

 

Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

 

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Dr. Jessalyn Klein: Dealing with Difficult People

In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw and Dr. Jessalyn Klein discuss:

  • Working with people with different personality types and different opinions. 
  • Successfully dealing with a know-it-all, a boundary pusher, and others. 
  • Setting expectations from the beginning. 
  • Giving necessary education and managing magical thinking. 
  • Using the DEAR MAN trick for dealing with people. 

 

Key Takeaways:

  • As the trainer, be willing to throw the trainee a bone, but give them the big picture and show them how what they are saying fits in (or doesn’t) with that bigger picture. 
  • If people just want interaction, if they are paying you, they will likely drop off at some point. If they keep coming back, they likely do want to learn something even if they can’t admit it. 
  • Be realistic, be communicative, and be upfront. Don’t lie to the client about how the training is going. 
  • If you understand what motivates someone to behave in a certain way, then you can understand how to deal with that behavior (much like dog training). 
  • Your job is to educate the client, not to shame them for what they don’t know. 

 

“This all does come down to, ultimately, having a better educated general population with animals. Also, when you set up expectations effectively, and you and your clients are on the same page, that’s going to result in meeting agreed upon goals, and they’re going to be happy clients, they’re going to be happy with their dogs, and happy with you as a trainer.” —  Dr. Jessalyn Klein

 

Get Jerry’s book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com

 

Contact Jessalyn: 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessalynkleinphd/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessalyn.klein/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drkleink9training/ 

Contact Jerry:

Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com

Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com

Tarheel Canine Training:  www.tarheelcanine.com

Youtube:  tarheelcanine

Twitter: @tarheelcanine

Instagram: @tarheelk9

Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining

Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org

Patreon:   patreon.com/controlledaggression

Slideshare: Tarheel Canine

Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine 

Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/ 

 

 

Sponsors: 

ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com

PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org

Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com

Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/ 

Aaron’s Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca 

Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc 

Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/ 

 

Train Hard, train smart, be safe.

 

 

Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

 

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

Multiple Markers: Are they Necessary?

In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw discusses:

  • Multiple markers for different reward types. 
  • The purpose of markers and when a marker may or may not be necessary. 
  • Types of markers and what they indicate to your dog (even if you didn’t intend for that behavior).
  • Reward prediction error and reward preferences. 

 

Key Takeaways:

  • With more rehearsal, the neurons that release dopamine activate on the expectation of reward, not when the reward is delivered.
  • Markers create clarity in behavior. 
  • A marker is something that calls attention to a moment in time when the dog did something that’s rewardable. It allows us to bridge from behavior to reward delivery.
  • It is not about the marker. It is about the goal directed behavior getting rewarded on a variable basis. 

 

“The most important thing here is the behavior. Don’t get so hung up on the marker itself, it’s the behavior. Our goal as dog trainers is to create behaviors that are going to be in line with what is expected.” —  Jerry Bradshaw

 

Get Jerry’s book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com

 

Episode References: 

Fenzi Dog Sports Academy: https://www.fenzidogsportsacademy.com/ 

Dr. Robert Sapolsky: https://profiles.stanford.edu/robert-sapolsky 

Dopamine, Anticipation, & Relationships: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIRZu1dRp8Q 

 

Contact Jerry:

Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com

Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com

Tarheel Canine Training:  www.tarheelcanine.com

Youtube:  tarheelcanine

Twitter: @tarheelcanine

Instagram: @tarheelk9

Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining

Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org

Patreon:   patreon.com/controlledaggression

Slideshare: Tarheel Canine

Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine 

Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/ 

 

 

Sponsors: 

ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com

PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org

Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com

Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/ 

Aaron’s Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca 

Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc 

Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/ 

 

Train Hard, train smart, be safe.

 

 

Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

 

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

Primacy of Learning, Hunt Drive, Markers, and Advice for Young Trainers

In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw discusses:

  • Having a full, firm, and hard grip (which may not be calm). 
  • Developing a hunt drive in your dog. 
  • Working dogs on markers and having different types of markers. 
  • How to be an active learner and advice for young trainers. 
  • How primacy of learning applies to training. 

 

Key Takeaways:

  • You want a bite suit to be as form fitting as possible to allow the dog to feel the person underneath while still giving protection to the decoy. 
  • Your dog should have a genetic predisposition to hunting. However, rehearsal and learning awakens the genetics inside of young dogs when you practice. 
  • You have control of how you want to train on markers. You can have multiple types for different things how you choose as long as it is clear to the dog what you want them to do.
  • Watch everything. When you are learning to train, watch others work, watch masters handle dogs. Be attentive at all times. 
  • In training, ask questions, be kind, and pay attention. 

 

“My advice for young trainers is watch everything going on around you. Be present, be attentive to training that’s happening in front of you, so you can try and understand it.” —  Jerry Bradshaw

 

Get Jerry’s book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com

 

Contact Jerry:

Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com

Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com

Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/ 

Tarheel Canine Training:  www.tarheelcanine.com

Youtube:  tarheelcanine

Twitter: @tarheelcanine

Instagram: @tarheelk9

Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining

Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org

Patreon:   patreon.com/controlledaggression

Slideshare: Tarheel Canine

Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine 

 

 

Sponsors: 

ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com

PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org

Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com

Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/ 

Aaron’s Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca 

Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc 

Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/ 

 

Train Hard, train smart, be safe.

 

 

Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

 

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

The Detection Blueprint

Introducing…The Detection Blueprint! If you have ever wanted to learn how to train canine detection from start to finish, you can join us for the three part series, The Detection Blueprint! Over this three part series, we’re going to break down detection training and share knowledge, insights and tactics – tactics that I’ve learned over the last 25 years training working dogs. In 3, 2-hour long sessions, you will learn detection foundations, your detection process, and making your detection operational.

 

if you’re interested in detection training, really this is a webinar series you don’t want to miss! You get lifetime access by going to StreetReadyK9.com!

 

 

Get Jerry’s book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com

 

Contact Jerry:

Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com

Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com

Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/ 

Tarheel Canine Training:  www.tarheelcanine.com

Youtube:  tarheelcanine

Twitter: @tarheelcanine

Instagram: @tarheelk9

Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining

Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org

Patreon:   patreon.com/controlledaggression

Slideshare: Tarheel Canine

Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine 

 

 

Sponsors: 

ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com

PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org

Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com

Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/ 

Aaron’s Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca 

Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc 

Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/ 

 

Train Hard, train smart, be safe.

 

 

Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie

 

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

 

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